Alleged Discovery Gunman James J. Lee's Bizarre Demands

[Ladywriter 7,783]

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The Discovery Channel MUST broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet and to do the following IMMEDIATELY:

1. The Discovery Channel and it's affiliate channels MUST have daily television programs at prime time slots based on Daniel Quinn's "My Ishmael" pages 207-212 where solutions to save the planet would be done in the same way as the Industrial Revolution was done, by people building on each other's inventive ideas. Focus must be given on how people can live WITHOUT giving birth to more filthy human children since those new additions continue pollution and are pollution. A game show format contest would be in order. Perhaps also forums of leading scientists who understand and agree with the Malthus-Darwin science and the problem of human overpopulation. Do both. Do all until something WORKS and the natural world starts improving and human civilization building STOPS and is reversed! MAKE IT INTERESTING SO PEOPLE WATCH AND APPLY SOLUTIONS!!!!

2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs' places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.

3. All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore. Instead, talk about ways to disassemble civilization and concentrate the message in finding SOLUTIONS to solving global military mechanized conflict. Again, solutions solutions instead of just repeating the same old wars with newer weapons. Also, keep out the fraudulent peace movements. They are liars and fakes and had no real intention of ending the wars. ALL OF THEM ARE FAKE! On one hand, they claim they want the wars to end, on the other, they are demanding the human population increase. World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!

4. Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation. If you think it isn't, then get hell off the planet! Breathe Oil! It is the moral obligation of everyone living otherwise what good are they??

5. Immigration: Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)

6. Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don't build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet!

7. Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race. Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people's brains until they get it!!

8. Saving the Planet means saving what's left of the non-human Wildlife by decreasing the Human population. That means stopping the human race from breeding any more disgusting human babies! You're the media, you can reach enough people. It's your resposibility because you reach so many minds!!!

9. Develop shows that will correct and dismantle the dangerous US world economy. Find solutions for their disasterous Ponzi-Casino economy before they take the world to another nuclear war.

10. Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC. Stop Future Weapons shows or replace the dialogue condemning the people behind these developments so that the shows become exposes rather than advertisements of Arms sales and development!

11. You're also going to find solutions for unemployment and housing. All these unemployed people makes me think the US is headed toward more war.

Humans are the most destructive, filthy, pollutive creatures around and are wrecking what's left of the planet with their false morals and breeding culture.

For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human's lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease!

It is the responsiblity of everyone to preserve the planet they live on by not breeding any more children who will continue their filthy practices. Children represent FUTURE catastrophic pollution whereas their parents are current pollution. NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis. Even one child born in the US will use 30 to a thousand times more resources than a Third World child. It's like a couple are having 30 babies even though it's just one! If the US goes in this direction maybe other countries will too!

Also, war must be halted. Not because it's morally wrong, but because of the catastrophic environmental damage modern weapons cause to other creatures. FIND SOLUTIONS JUST LIKE THE BOOK SAYS! Humans are supposed to be inventive. INVENT, DAMN YOU!!

The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.

Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.

The humans? The planet does not need humans.

You MUST KNOW the human population is behind all the pollution and problems in the world, and YET you encourage the exact opposite instead of discouraging human growth and procreation. Surely you MUST ALREADY KNOW this!

I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it.

These are the demands and sayings of Lee.

okay, so he was really angry and rightfully so. encouraging humans to have litters instead of a baby is not cool as more kids does = more enviro destruction. If you wanna be surrounded by lil ones run a day care or become a teacher. I don't see how 6 or 8 or 14 or more kids can get enough attention from their parents either. As those of us w/ kids know just 1 is a full time job and lifelong commitment.

Lee could have benefited from some (anger) therapy. Its sad he took such a kinda violent route and its sad the media is in a hurry to drop this guys story. We should stop glorifying poppin out kids like fuckin pez. Its not just unfair to the kids in that family its unfair to all children around the world that so many resources are going to a single family.

We're taking a big giant shit all over the future, just like our parents, and it needs to stop.

[HKofsesshoumaru 673]

Wow I just saw that they shot him down today. This was nuts

More bombs found in Discovery standoff case

Man who identified himself as James J. Lee was shot dead by police

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   Police chief: Gunman was ‘very angry’
   
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   James Lee pitched TV show to Discovery
   

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updated 9/2/2010 7:49:17 PM ET

• SILVER SPRING, Md. — Four more explosive devices tied to the suspect in the Discovery Channel standoff were found at a residence in Montgomery County, Md., authorities told NBC News on Thursday.
  

Authorities said a bomb squad detonated the devices. No one was injured.

Investigators are still trying to find the car they believe that the suspect, identified as James J. Lee, was driving on Wednesday before he entered the headquarters of Discovery Communications in Silver Spring, Md., with bombs strapped to him and took three people hostage.

Montgomery County Police Chief Thomas Manger said the gunman was shot to death about 4:50 p.m. EDT when authorities watching security cameras saw the hostages move in a possible run for freedom and heard a "pop" they believed to be a gunshot or an explosive going off

from hostages," Manger said. "We're watching this and trying to keep the focus of the guy we're talking to. We didn't know if they were up to something or what they were doing. We are surmising they were making a break for it."

Lee repeatedly said he was "ready to die," the police chief said.

"I believe he was not intending to come out of there alive," Manger said.

The hostages — two Discovery Communications employees and a security guard — were unhurt after the four-hour standoff.

Police say a review of Discovery Channel surveillance video indicates that the suspect may not have been wearing any explosive devices when he entered the building on Wednesday. It's possible, they say, that he had them in a box he carried and put them on once he was inside the building.

Officers scouring the building overnight found several devices on the suspect, including two table-top propane gas canisters and two pipe bombs, NBC News reported Thursday.

As for how powerful they were, investigators say they can't be certain, but they believe the device Lee was wearing would have killed him and could have harmed any hostages near him.

Also, Montgomery County, Md. police sources said the guns the hostage-taker had were only starter pistols, which can make noise but can't cause serious injury.

An NBC News producer who called the building to find out what was going on had a brief telephone conversation with the man when he came on the line unexpectedly. He said, "I have a gun and I have a bomb. ... I have several bombs strapped to my body ready to go off."

Video: NBC producer: Gunman wanted his story told (on this page)

NBC News informed Montgomery County authorities of the conversation as the producer spoke to the man for about 10 minutes. NBC News did not report the conversation until the hostage situation had been resolved.

When Lee pleaded guilty in 2008 to disorderly conduct outside the Discovery building, he was ordered to stay away from it as a condition of his probation. That order, county officials say, expired two weeks ago.

The case stemmed from his protests against Discovery Communications , which includes the Discovery Channel, TLC, Animal Planet, Science Channel and Planet Green networks.

Lee appears to have posted environmental and population-control demands online, saying humans are ruining the planet and that Discovery should develop programs to sound the alarm.

Court records show that Lee was arrested Feb. 21, 2008, on the sixth day of a protest at the Discovery building. At the time of his conviction in March 2008, he was identified as being from San Diego.

Police were called to the scene when a crowd that had gathered began growing "unruly" as Lee threw thousands of dollars of cash into the air, some of it still in shrink-wrapped packages, police said at the time. (Lee was found not guilty of littering.)

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Video: Police chief: Gunman was ‘very angry’

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   LAUER: Well done, Rob . Rob Rivas , one of our producers here at NBC News . Montgomery County , Maryland , Police Chief Thomas Manger was on the scene during the hostage crisis. Chief, good morning to you.
   
   
   Chief MANGER: Good morning.
   
   
   LAUER: What kind of communications did you have with James Lee during this whole period of time?
   
   
   Chief MANGER: Well, we were on the phone with him for the better part of four hours. We were obviously trying to get him to calm down. Our primary goal was to get him to release the hostages. But unfortunately he was -- he's -- he was -- I would characterize him as very angry throughout our conversation, although he had a wide range of emotions. But -- and he hung up a couple of times on us, but we very quickly got him back on the phone. So our goal was to try and get through this as safely as possible.
   
   
   LAUER: He told you, and he told our producer that he had explosive devices with him. It turns out that when the shot was fired by your tactical unit, one of those devices did go off. Can you tell me anything about the level of sophistication of those devices?
   
   
   Chief MANGER: I can. The -- and right now we're unsure as to whether he detonated the device prior to being shot or after. I mean, that's still under investigation. What he had was, there were four devices strapped to his person. Two propane cylinders similar to those that one would use when you're camping. Those propane cylinders had pipes attached to them that contained shotgun shells. He also had two pipe bombs attached to him. They had explosive-type fireworks in them. During the negotiations we saw that he had a switch in his hand. He would occasionally take a pin out of the switch and then put it back in. So we weren't sure if he had some radio-controlled device or if it was something where if he let go of the switch, a device would go off. So all this was playing out as we were talking to him and as we were trying to come up with a strategy...
   
   
   LAUER: Right.
   
   
   Chief MANGER: ...of how we were going to end this incident.
   
   
   LAUER: I know your officers train for events like this probably quite often. There were 1900 people in that building, and everybody but the gunman got out alive. So you must be proud of your officers.
   
   
   Chief MANGER: Well, I'm tremendously proud of my officers, the fire rescue service, all the agencies that assisted. But the hostages were tremendously courageous as well and I really admire their ability to remain as calm as they did throughout this ordeal.
   
   
   LAUER: Chief Thomas Manger of Montgomery County Police Department . Chief, thanks so much. We appreciate your time this morning.
   
   

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Video: James Lee pitched TV show to Discovery

A video allegedly created by James Lee as an introduction for a TV show concept from the “SaveThePlanetProtest” YouTube channel.

[nomedia=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNQdlXGM5vc]YouTube- Race to Save The Planet[/nomedia]

Edited September 4, 2010 by HKofsesshoumaru

[HKofsesshoumaru 673]

Sorry for the double post. This happens when I get insomnia. I just re read the top part. What is this about stopping farming and procreation? The having kids in litters is totally nuts. We are not the duggers or who ever those 19 kids and counting people are. Im mean seriously more people equals more polution. What was this guy standing off for anyway? Was is the fact they wouldnt do his show or was he protesting the Discovery Channel?

Edited September 4, 2010 by HKofsesshoumaru

[Ladywriter 7,783]

I think he went there knowing he would probably die. He could have taken way more hostages but he took only a token amount, just enough to get attention. He wanted to be heard, for the glorification of birth and giant families by dis com to stop.

Having 14 kids shouldn't make you a celebrity, its not doing anyone any good.