Destiny - Discussion

[Strider Hiryu 2,704]

I would of just waited because when you ascend armor and weapons they keep all upgrades unlocked and automatically upgrade damage and armor to the maximum amount (what I was trying to tell you before) but whats done is done, you'll need to fully upgrade it again (except damage wise come next Tuesday). That's the reason why I didn't upgrade my Bad Juju or my Ice Breaker this week (and why I didn't upgrade my Invective last week), not worth the glimmer or materials to go all the way back through it.

Edited May 10, 2015 by Strider Hiryu

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

but what if they make you upgrade it and then ascend it?

 

But in all seriousness, they only way to upgrade weapons and armor is to complete the level 32 playlist of PoE. Doing it with 300 cap weapons doesn't seem viable, even if you buy a whole set of new vanguard armor. Murmur is the only 331 weapon he has right now. lol

[Sledgstone 8,672]

Son of a... oh well. I'll need to do a bunch of strikes and crucible for the bad juju bounty anyway. Hopefully I'll get some good leveling up on my ice breaker during that. Wasn't the mats needed to ascend items only available from doing higher tiered accomplishments? like level 32 PoE? If thats the case with me being level 28, I won't be able to ascend anything any time soon. I hope they don't do this crap with every dlc. I would rage if anet increased total armor and weapon damage in gw2 without increasing the actual damage and armor on all existing gear.

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

Strike Playlist is bugged out on mars for some reason.

 

Last night I did Dust Palace, Undying Mind, Cerberus Vae III, Undying Mind, Dust Palace, then I left when it went back to Cerberus. Got back on and hit Omigul, Dust Palace, Devil's Layer, Cerberus Vae.... then tonight I roll Dust Palace twice in a row and just get off. They seriously need to fix their rotation.

[Sledgstone 8,672]

I did a few more of those urn bounties yesterday. All I want to do is crucible and strike playlist but the death penalty on these bounties is keeping me in more low level areas. X_x I just want these damn gauntlets at this point. I still wish the game had a map. I can't remember where the refinery is on earth to get that last purple bounty I got from eris. I'll have to check a YouTube video later.

[Strider Hiryu 2,704]

It's on the way to The Devil's Lair, the guy you need to kill is praying by that hive ship before you enter the area to do the ghost defense thing (if you're in strike which this does not require).

 

So I did the Nightfall this morning (which was a bitch) and got an exotic. This would be all well and good if I didn't already have the damn thing. Gave me the Symbiote helm. Sigh, was fun though.

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

They really love Omnigul... well it could be worse... could be Dust Palace

 

I'm gonna run it later with my co-worker since he basically does all the work with Fatebringer, Black Hammer, and Gjallahorn. I'll probably get another crap item.

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

I got to do some Vault tonight. I can get 7 legendary engrams to drop playing strikes, but the Vault gives me the damn stupid ass ship again, and nightfall gives me shards wtf. Everyone else got exotics.

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

I guess I can't complain too much though

[Sledgstone 8,672]

Impressive collection. It's probably a good thing you didn't get most of that until recently. Imagine having to ascend all that.

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

I'm going to scrap most of them after I get them all upgraded so I can get more energies out of each. This game gives you all the shards you want now but never gives you energies unless you do a raid or nightfall.

A lot of people like Badger CCL, but I think Saterienne Rapier is far superior. It had less impact, but it's rate of fire and stability are way better and the explosive rounds make it the best scout rifle in the game.

[Strider Hiryu 2,704]

I like my Badger, nice stable scout rifle with nice damage output and I can hit head shots for days with the thing (really wish it had increased reload speed though, thing reloads a little to slow for me). I'm not that impressed with explosive rounds, my other scout rifle has them and honestly they don't do much more damage then the weapon itself and the splash damage is negligible to other targets around the one your shooting at.  Honestly I've never seen the appeal to them (my Devil You Know has them to and I again same story but I prefer explosive rounds on hand cannons). Now if it had Firefly I'd be happier then hell then, that's one of the best upgrades for a weapon in this game (sadly very few weapons have it). Still thought he Reaper is an amazing scout rifle, my friend has it and loves the thing to death (but I don't think he got the same upgrades for it as you did).

 

Heh, I honestly thought you had more exotics then that considering your unnatural luck in this game (not that I should talk, counting last word I'm at 5 for weapons) but that is quite the collection you have there (much better then my sad showing, I have very few legendary weapons).

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

The Devil You Know. Now that's a gun I can't wait to ascend. I was looking at it in My vault the other day and forgot how great it was.

Edit: I did have more exotics at one time, but I scrapped them for exotic shards to upgrade Suros, Red Death, and Helm of Inner Most Light. Since it takes 1 to trade in and another to max I didn't have the strange coins or patience. Plus I figured I could just buy Alpha Lupi again rather than upgrading it and ascending it, and Super Good Advice is an easy bounty to complete again.

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

Queens Wrath was reintroduced today. Sadly our Queens rank was reset to 0. Instead of scaled up story missions there are open world bounties. She is offering 6 of them listed as days... which is confusing because day 1-4 was selectable today. two were on Earth and two on Venus. Day 5 and 6 are on the Moon.

 

These events occur more frequently than public events, but don't stop public events from spawning... so for instance the guy that spawns at Ember Caves could be running around when all of the sudden a fallen walker public event wants to show up. This is where Bungie is going to have to fix their instances. My first run in was a complete fail on Earth's forgotten shore. The target was a fallen captain with one of those shields that wont stay down, and with just two of us, time around out before we could take him down. Its possible to do these solo or with two people as long as the mechanics are known, but it runs a lot smoother with more people... and most likely they don't know the mechanics of the fight.

 

The event happens as follows:

Roaming the target area, you will see a message at the bottom left corner "Wolves are Prowling"

A Fallen drop ship will drop off some level 30 dregs, vandals and 2 scorch captains, when the captains are killed they drop their scorch cannons.

Oooh! New toy!!!.... NO! Don't touch these cannons yet. There will be 2-3 more waves of baddies including cloaker captains... yup CLOAKER CAPTAINS!!

These waves can be taken down with regular weapons. If you are soloing this even, pick up one of the scorch cannons on the cloaker captain wave and take them out.

The last wave will consist of the target. Right now there is a Captain, Servitor, Cloaker Captain, and a Super Dreg as targets.

Try to dispatch the normal enemies before engaging the target, once the target is killed you are given a key to a randomly spawned chest in the nearby area, you have a little over a minute to find it.

This chest will have a different glow, with a small light pillar over it to indicate it is special. (Chest spawn guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/36349w/guide_ether_chests_locations_found/)

 

Normally when you are in a group of people, they grab the scorch cannons right off the bat and waste all the ammo, but if there is enough people, it shouldn't be an issue taking down the target as there is bound to be a Gjallahorn in the mix. The chest can be looted more than once off one key for now. If you hop on your sparrow, leave the area, and come back you can open the chest again until bungie fixes the exploit. The chest will have engrams, ammo synthesis, and possible PoE treasure room keys. The Engrams cannot be decoded by the Cryptarch until HoW. On a bonus note, when HoW launches, legendary engrams have 0 chance of decrypting into shards or energies.

 

You don't need a bounty to farm the special chests. The best place to farm is on Venus as Ember Caves and the Citadel are 1 area apart and you can keep traveling back and forth to try and find an active/populated instance.

 

I'll try to be on for a bit tomorrow, but every time something like this comes up in gaming my friends want to hang So I may not be on in the afternoon. I got a legendary primary weapon engram so far. I'm hoping it will decrypt into Her Mercy. I want to at least get a few legendary armor engrams to roll some good stuff for HoW before Queens Wrath ends.

 

Here is a list of the HoW weapons and armor: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/364ey8/patch_120_redux_all_house_of_wolves_exotics_gear/

 

Queenbreaker's Bow may be a fusion sniper rifle . Bones of Eao looks like it will give Hunters a needed jump assist. Outside of that the weapons list is pretty Meh at a glance. Up the Ante, Her Mercy, and Jewel of Osiris may be pretty good. 

[Sledgstone 8,672]

I'll be on at random times this weekend. I need me some queen bounty stuff. And I still need to get that urn mission done.

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

What we are looking at for Prison Of Elders bosses

The Hive boss seems to be the worst roll for Hunters... metaphorically he turns the ground to lava... the Hunter's inability to stay off the ground is going to hurt.... you guys are gonna need a second character for sure

 

The Cabal boss looks like a damn Nightfall strike @_@... solar weapons will be a must? Think again, The boss recalibrates his when you knock them out. The team needs to make sure that everyone has 2 of each type across the board. Pray that at least a one type of burn is active to take this guy down however.

 

Holy shit... the vex room isn't available until level 35... jump at your own risk!!! @_@

 

I couldn't find a Fallen boss video so I wonder if he is even worse X_X

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

I GOT VEX MYTHOCLAST!! WOO HOO!!... ok now that thats out of the way ....

 

The House of Wolves is an insane improvement over Dark Below. The story missions are better than the original campaign which still doesn't make much of any sense yet. The voice acting is great as well. The Shadow Thief strike is a blast and will throw you off your game the first time you play it.

 

Prison of Elders is a blast, you really have to have good maxed weapons and a full team to beat 32. I wasn't able to do that and I need to max my weapons out. The level 28 playlist is matchmade and as a level 32 its fun but way too easy. It would be more fun for lower level players. If you fail a room, it checkpoints so no worries if things don't go as planned. You cannot access PoE until you finish the story missions. Upon beating PoE level 28 your first time I'm almost 100% certain you are guaranteed 1 legendary and 1 exotic drop. I got Hard Light, which im kinda iffy about. My co-worker got Hawkmoon the lucky bastard. I played it again to see if I could roll another exotic and only got 1 legendary... but it was a scout rifle with firefly so i can't complain. Exotic drops from HoW are automatically ascended so it's a big plus getting them from there rather than the raid. Not counting Mythoclast, in one sitting I got Monte Carlo and Hardlight. I also got a Queen's rocket launcher, scout rifle, and auto rifle.

 

Oh an on and ending note, buying a set of armor from the vanguard gets you to 32 automatically with no leveling required. i was lucky enough to get boots and a chest piece from farmed engrams and I bought a helm.

 

EDIT: After your first story mission you get a new special weapon called the Vestian Dynasty. Its a sidearm. At first I was skeptical of this little pocket pistol because it has horrible impact... but TBH its super OP. I hope bungie doesn't nerf this little hidden gem, because everyone has access to it that got the DLC. It has maxed stability and a crazy rate of fire.... plus its a special weapon that has 128 rounds of ammo! Its not going to take down a Cabal Ultra, but it will kill hive knights like they are nothing, and it will drop a Fallen Captain's shield so fast. It has amazing DPS on accurate damage. I was popping 800+ a shot twice every second.. so 1600+ DPS. It also has a special perk that suppresses captain's abilities. This little guy aint no joke.

 

Oh and FYI the Daily Heroic Hard and Nightfall are now Level 32... get that armor up fast.

[Sledgstone 8,672]

Sounds good. I'm looking forward to playing PoE. I'm glad there is a level 28 version so I can level up my weapons there without getting my ass handed to me. Lol.

[Strider Hiryu 2,704]

Damn, here I am 100 miles away from my PS4 when all the fun is happening. Damn new job training. Can't wait to get on it when I get home (I'll be home Friday night). We'll have to hit up PoE on Saturday if we can so I can get some fat lewts before I head back out for training again (and if not I can always do the level 28 match made and get some gear from it).

[Sledgstone 8,672]

I have a 4 day weekend starting friday. Shoot me a text when you get on and hopefully my timing will work out good.

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

 

That loot tho....

 

The Dragon Strike Playlist seems to be a lot more friendly with the drops. You still get your rounds of blues, ships, and shaders... but Legendaries pop up a lot more. One round I got 2 legendary armor engrams as the end reward, and I got Loner.Rebel 2 strikes before that... normally you could say it was my luck, but I saw other people get Loner.Rebel and some Fusion Rifles.

 

I beat PoE level 32 today and got an armor core. I bought the guantlets Variks was selling this week so I could get to 33. If Xur sells boots or a chest piece for Titans this week I'll buy it. I was able to beat level 34 as well and got a weapon core and Etheric Light. I am holding on to the Etheric light so I can see what Variks offers next week and after I make that purchase I can equip the corresponding Xur item and ascend the last piece of armor to get to level 34. I'm also holding on to my weapon core until he sells Six Dreg Pride II. The one that drops is kenetic, but the one he will sell will have solar, arc, or void damage. http://www.destinydb.com/items/270944924

 

Once you get to level 34 PoE things start getting crazy. Thats when the bosses have abilities like burning the ground, or changing shields. I've only fought the Hive and Cabal bosses on hard mode. I played the Vex boss on the 28 playlist and I don't ever want to roll him on the higher levels. The place became infested with a ton of Axis Hobgoblins making it a nightmare even at 28. We rolled the Hive boss on the 34 playlist and Solar Burn rolls as the modifier this week... yeah that burning the ground thing is a solar attack... X_x...  Hopefully next week I'll be able to try level 35 when I reach 34. This is where PoE thrives and it gets really fun. I can see why they made the new armor and weapons come standard with max power, allowing people to jump right into PoE. Def ascend your armor first before your weapons. I didn't know how I was going to do with lack luster weapons, but the queen's scout rifle worked great for a bit until I decided to scrap Patience and Time to ascended Suros in a time of dire need. I scrapped Monte Carlo to ascend my Helm, and I'm going to scrap Hard Light or Bad Juju to ascend Mythoclast. (Exotics only require a shard to ascend and not Etheric Light)

 

I really like Bungie's approach with showering us with new loot. Chest farming is still available and seems to be a permanent fixture of the game now. Its the legit way to get keys... of course I ended up getting another key from the small chest in the treasure room. Out of 5 times I've yet to roll another exotic weapon from the chest. Letting us get to max level with a 3 man team was the right way to go.

 

I have the early shift Friday and I am off Saturday. My co-worker wants me to team up for Trials of Osiris, but I'm sure I'll just drag the team and down cause them to get booted for the week fairly quickly. I should be available to run the story with you guys and PoE... I need to farm for more keys now, I used mine up.

[Strider Hiryu 2,704]

So I got through all the story today after getting home (loving the sidearm by the way, not overly powerful but it rips Captain shields to shreds which is nice) and I also turned in all those engrams (got crap outside of a nice sniper rifle (FWC one), the crucible rocket launcher, and two pairs of gauntlets (the dead orbit and sanction six ones)). Got a Pulse Rifle out of an engram I got out of a chest for those wolf bounties (as well as a key) and the Sanction Six helm out of a blue engram. Did the new strike which is a blast, wish some of the other ones were as fun.

 

Also did PoE lvl 28 (of course) which I must say is easy but a blast. After going though all of it I got Her Mercy (a very nice hand cannon that I needed to reforge for some decent perks) and I got the MiDA Multi-tool. Not a bad hall if I say so myself but I definitely have a taste for it now and we definitely need to do 32 PoE tomorrow. I'm drooling just thinking of the loot that can come from that. I also really need to get to Rank 3 with the Queen because I want that damn ship!

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

Nice, I been wanting Her Mercy since the list of weapons came out before HoW's release. Spolier alert: The big chest loot doesn't get better with difficulty. The level 28 chest was my best roll. The smaller chests get marginally better I think, but I've never rolled another exotic from 32 or 34. The only perks for the harder difficulties are the armor/weapon cores and etheric light.

 

I'm starting to realize the raid level type "Adept" weapons are only obtainable by getting to the Lighthouse via Trials of Osiris.

 

We really need to get more characters to take advantage of multi-spamming these events for more chances at loot. I've been so lazy about be because I don't feel like playing the base game with garbage weapons. I managed to get my Warlock to 17 tonight. I bought the chest piece from xur today and I rolled a legendary HoW helmet. I'll just need boots and gloves to instantly get to 31-32 upon reaching 20. I'll have a ways to go on leveling Sunsinger. The self-revive is invaluable at times. with my coworkers we ran double defender titans and a warlock... which seems to be ideal for the Urrox at least. I also rolled Helm of Saint-14 for my Titan off an Engram. Blinding enemies in the bubble is basically a necessity for harder PoE levels so I am working on getting that leveled so I can be 33 with it equipped.

[Strider Hiryu 2,704]

Heh, yea thats why I was leveling my Warlock last week. I'd like to get her 32 so I can farm weekly events for coins and it'd be nice to farm the shit out of PoE more then once a week. Maybe I'll do some leveling on her today or tomorrow.

[DeathscytheX 9,732]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/371sdj/poe_guides_rewards/

As I figured, big chest loot doesn't change. So if you want to farm for that elusive Gally, just blow through 28.

My luck was too good when that legendary engram dropped when we did the strike. It turned into exotic hunter gauntlets. So now my Warlock is stuck at 30 until I rank up to vanguard 2 and buy the two armor pieces and blow my etheric lights on him. Or just wait two weeks and spend the light on weapons for my Titan that will be 34 after reset.

 

EDIT:

 

I did PoE with my Warlock and got Thunderlord... disappointing but I must say it is quite the beast... I'll keep it for Arc Burn situations in PoE.

 

I have mostly all the queen's weapons except for Her Mercy... the one I actually want... here is a run down of what I think of them so far.

 

Her Right Hand - Garbage auto rifle.. medicore stability and small mag makes this weapon completely pointless despite is above average impact for an AR.

 

Her Benevolence - Wicked sniper rifle. i don't know how it would compare to an ascended The Supremacy, but it packs a punch. Its fire rate is a bit slow, but that also helps with ensuring you get the extra shot when you have Triple Tap.

 

Wolve's Bane - Not interested in using it. 23 round mag on an LMG? pass... If you ever roll Against All Odds you'll see that these small mag LMGs aren't worth a damn.

 

The Dreamwaker - solid rocket launcher... nothing special.

 

Her Courtesy - This shotgun is a monster... my only complaints about it would make it ultra OP if they were fixed to my liking. The drawback to this weapon is its slow rate of fire and even more insanely slow reload... but it has above average range and massive impact for a shotgun. This thing will take a captains shields and almost all his health in one blast. I have flared magwell on mine, so I'll report back when I get a faster reload.

 

Techeun Force - I haven't tried it yet, but the range and impact are really high for a fusion rifle... like the shotgun however it looks like it will suffer from a slow charge rate to compensate from being well above average in areas that are generally shortcomings for these types of weapons.

 

Payment VI - Don't have the Pulse Rifle... is the only other weapon beside Her Mercy I don't have.