Myk JL 1,731 Report post Posted October 29, 2008 This is going to get interesting!... Gonna pull out popcorn for this debate. Now to just wait for LW's rebuttal. Those who fight deplorables should see to it that they themselves do not become deplorables. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khellendross 1,260 Report post Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) "Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich did what conservatives have been waiting for someone to do since Sarah Palin was announced as John McCain's running mate: take on someone in the media claiming that she lacks the qualifications to be vice president.Such marvelously occurred Tuesday evening on the convention floor in St. Paul when MSNBC's Ron Allen said to the former Speaker, "But to be fair, her resume is not something we're familiar seeing with presidential candidates." This didn't sit well with Gingrich who strongly replied: It's stronger than Barack Obama's. I don't know why you guys walk around saying this baloney. She has a stronger resume than Obama. She's been a real mayor, he hasn't. She has been a real governor, he hasn't. She's been in charge of the Alaskan National Guard, he hasn't. She was a whistleblower who defeated an incumbent mayor. He has never once shown that kind of courage. She's a whistleblower who turned in the chairman of her own party and got him fined $12,000. I've never seen Obama do one thing like that. She took on the incumbent governor of her own party and beat him, and then she beat a former Democratic governor in the general election. I don't know of a single thing Obama's done except talk and write. Newt then challenged Allen: I'd like you to tell me one thing Sen. Obama's done. With that, Allen retreated, and said: Thanks very much, Mr. Speaker. I'm going to leave it there. I'm not going to argue the case. Thanks very much. Hmmm. Imagine that. I guess folks like Allen are only willing to argue the case when there's nobody playing the part of the defense attorney. How convenient." http://vodpod.com/watch/984381-newt-gingrich-challenges-msnbc-reporter-on-sarah-palin’s-vp-qualifications I find it halarious that women even profess partial support for the "Wack Job" Palin, considering she made the victims of rape in her town while she was mayor pay for the rape kits to catch the crooks who raped them in the first place. Im a guy. And i think that's retarded. If you wanna spew republican talking points. please, be sure to do research on both sides. Obama has been talking about the future and how his administration will do things. McSame has been attacking obama on everything he possibly can. trying to find some way to win this election. personally, if McCain wins, im moving to Canada. im not living under another Dictator. Edited October 29, 2008 by Khellendross Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gundam-Ranger-X 1,988 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 Well you may as well start packing 'cause we all know that rascist America won't elect a N-word president. I mean do you really think states like South-Carolina, Alabama, or South Dekota are going to vote for Obama? No, they're going to vote for the rich white guy cause unlike before, he's the only rich white guy up for presidency. It's sad really. I pitty the US and hate the fact that Canada is so closely dependant on it. Life tastes like kittens. I like kittens! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeathscytheX 9,732 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 This post is declining steeply. There is more ignorance and bigotry in the last round of posts than you'll ever see on Capitol Hill. Lets stick to posting facts and not slurs. No anti-chirst, no Wack Jobs, no Rich White Guys, these people have names. Respect them, each other, and yourselves. GET A NEW FUNK ON BEFORE YOU GET DUMPED ON! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 I have to believe that the people voting in this election, no matter how racist, pro life, far right they are, have enough common sense to want our rights back and out of bijillion dollar wars. I have to I live here. There's a shitload of new voters, hopefully now there are more people voting on the issues not what color/ethnic background someone is. America is a melting pot, embrace it. Its time to spend our money at home. Our bridges are collapsing and ppl die because they're painted rust. Our entire educational system needs a frigin overhall we're spitting morons out of public schools and smart kids cant afford college. We're in desperate need of repealing some seriously fucked up legislation; the only republican that could have pulled that off was Ron Paul and the repub party did everything they could to shut him down. The quickest way to progress is Obama and a filibuster proof senate. Its time to turn our attention to the health and well being of our ppl. Recent blog about it I can answer Newts question as could anyone with Wiki Obama has sponsored 136 bills since Jan 4, 2005. Two have become law.[2] This figure does not include bills to which Obama contributed very substantially as cosponsor, such as the Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 or the Lugar-Nunn Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006. Nor does it include amendments to other bills, although in the Senate these are not required to be germane to the parent bill and can therefore effectively be bills in their own right.[3] Obama has co-sponsored 619 bills during the same time period. Obama held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006.[76] In January 2007, he left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.[77] He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs.[78] As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. He met with Mahmoud Abbas before he became President of Palestine, and gave a speech at the University of Nairobi condemning corruption in the Kenyan government.[79][80][81][82] Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 Sarah Palin just helped clarify McCain's double-talk on global warming: He doesn't think the government should do anything to stop it. Now the McCain campaign has decided to eliminate the ambiguity entirely in the desperate and erratic final days of his campaign. In her big greenwashing energy speech at an Ohio solar energy company, Palin was as blunt as possible in her prepared (and delivered) remarks: And we will control greenhouse gas emissions by giving American businesses new incentives and new rewards to seek, instead of just giving them new taxes to pay and new orders that they must follow -- "so says government". The final three words were ones she added, but the prepared text alone leaves no room for doubt. A McCain-Palin administration will not be issuing new orders that businesses must follow to control greenhouse gas emissions. It will use a voluntary or incentive-based approach, one that has never worked in any country to restrain emissions growth. McCain and his campaign have made a concerted effort to reassure conservatives he's not going to take strong action on climate, while hoping that moderates would be fooled just like some Bush voters were in 2000 ignore all this talk, which itself is a core campaign strategy of doubletalk (see "Memo to media: McCain doubletalks to woo conservatives and independents at the same time"). The Palin speech was the last piece of the puzzle. For one last time, let's consider the increasingly sorry history of the McCain campaign on climate and clean energy: During his career, McCain voted with Senator Inhofe (R-OK) and against clean energy a staggering 42 out of 44 times in the past two decades (see "The greenwasher from Arizona has a record as dirty as the denier from Oklahoma"). In December, anti-wind McCain skipped a vote to extend tax credits for renewable energy, though advisers say he would have voted against it. In January, McCain first boarded his Double-Talk Express on Global Warming when he began to walk away from calling his cap-and-trade "mandatory" -- "voluntary" climate action is of course the core of the Luntz/Bush do-nothing but sound-like-you-care strategy. In February, he repeated his failure to show up for a vote to extend tax credit for renewable energy (the only Senator to do so). In February, McCain repeated that "It's not quote mandatory caps." In March, his senior economic adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, said McCain "might take [new CAFE standards] off the books." April, McCain revealed cynicism, hypocrisy with call for summer gas-tax holiday, energy budget freeze. As I noted at the time, "the greatest threat to the success of a cap and trade system is that somebody might artificially limit the carbon price ... because some weak-kneed President (or Congress) walks away from that price the first time the economy suffers a downturn. McCain would appear to be that weak-kneed Presidential hopeful." In mid-May, McCain announced the details of his climate plan, which stunningly allowed "unlimited offests" (i.e. phony tons) in place of actual domestic emissions reductions, which is the same as "Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic." In late May, he "announced he won't even bother showing up to vote on his friend Joe Lieberman's climate bill." In June, he flipflopped on offshore oil drilling and even embraced "more traditional use of coal," an embrace of higher greenhouse gas emissions that is Bush-lite, crude, and not sweet. In July, he released his "Jobs for America" plan with so little on energy efficiency that it suggests he would be Cheney's third term! Again in July, National Review reported that cap and trade was "eradicated" from McCain campaign, according to comments from a "senior McCain official." At the end of July, McCain economic adviser Steve Forbes said, "I think cap and trade is going to go the way of some other things," and it won't "get far" under McCain. The 72-year-old McCain named a global warming denying, Big Oil Super-Shill as his Vice President. His much anticipated acceptance speech never once mentioned the gravest threat facing the health and well-being of the nation and the world. He has been running a campaign ad that appears to attack the very idea of cap-and-trade. His chief economic adviser said this week that McCain won't obey the Supreme Court decision requiring the EPA to regulate carbon dioxide as a pollutant. And in text prepared by the campaign, his vice presidential running mate said today that a McCain-Palin administration will not be issuing new orders that businesses must follow to control greenhouse gas emissions, but instead will be adopting an incentive-based (i.e. voluntary) approach. LCV Barak Obama (a good read for Newt Gingrich) "Putting a price on carbon is the most important step we can to take to reduce emissions. As president, my first priority to combat global warming will be enacting an economy-wide cap on U.S. carbon emissions that will reduce U.S. emissions by the amount scientists agree is necessary (80%) for the U.S. to bear an equitable share of the global emissions reduction burden. I will devote significant resources from a permit auction toward accelerating the development and deployment of low carbon technologies, addressing the economic challenges imposed on key industrial sectors, and providing meaningful incentives for action by developing countries. Another top priority for my energy and global warming agenda will be changing the cars we drive and the fossil fuels we burn. I will increase fuel efficiency standards to the limits of technological and economic feasibility; introduce legislation to lift the 60,000-per-manufacturer cap on buyer tax credits to encourage more Americans to buy ultra-efficient vehicles; and encourage automakers to make fuel-efficient hybrid vehicles by helping them shoulder the health care costs of their retirees. Domestic automakers will get health care assistance in exchange for investing 50 percent of the savings into technology to produce more fuel-efficient vehicles. In addition, I will provide automakers with generous tax incentives for retooling assembly plants. To change the fuels we burn, I introduced legislation to enact a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard that will reduce the lifecycle greenhouse gas emissions of passenger vehicle fuels sold in the U.S. by 10 percent in 2020 and require additional reductions of 1% annually thereafter." Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 THE TRIUMPH OF IGNORANCE: HOW MORONS SUCCEED IN U.S. POLITICS By George Monbiot, Monbiot.com Obama has a lot to offer, but until our education system is fixed or religious fundamentalism withers, anti-intellectuals will flaunt their ignorance. http://www.alternet.org/story/105447/ WANT TO SHUT CONSERVATIVES OUT OF POWER FOR GOOD? IMPLEMENT UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE By Sara Robinson, Campaign for America's Future Giving Americans universal access to health care will undermine some of the deepest and most persistent myths of the conservative worldview. http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/105448/ HOW TO MAKE YOUR VOTE AS EASY AS POSSIBLE: AN ONLINE GUIDE By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet How to vote early, find your polling place, check your registration, know what ID to bring, report problems, call a lawyer and more. http://www.alternet.org/election08/105468/ WHITE SUPREMACISTS FANTASIZE THAT OBAMA WILL HELP THEM RECRUIT By Max Blumenthal, The Daily Beast David Duke and white supremacists are grappling with arrests for an Obama murder plot, while hoping an Obama presidency will be good for them. http://www.alternet.org/election08/105459/ MCCAIN IS ROBIN HOOD IN REVERSE By Joshua Holland, AlterNet McCain wants to be the great "re-distributor": He takes money from poor people and sends it upwards. http://www.alternet.org/election08/105453/ HIP-HOP GENERATION'S "INDEPENDENCE" IS VERY OBAMA-LIKE By Don Hazen, AlterNet The hip-hop generation was all about becoming more independent from the Democratic Party -- until Obama came along. http://www.alternet.org/election08/105421/ THE REAL STORY BEHIND HOW MCCAIN CHOSE SARAH PALIN By Amy Goodman, Democracy Now! Journalist Jane Mayer on how right-wing Washington insiders became "smitten" with Sarah Palin, and crowned her their VP. http://www.alternet.org/election08/105359/ "BE THE CHANGE" AIMS TO GET OUT THE MUSIC VOTE By Steve Silberman, AlterNet Graham Nash and other big name music acts get out the vote with Election Day phone calls to their fans. http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/105086/ CA'S PROP 5: TREATMENT FOR DRUG ADDICTS WORKS AND JAIL TIME DOESN'T -- HERE ARE THE STORIES TO PROVE IT By Matthew Palevsky, AlterNet Treatment graduates ask CA voters to give others the opportunity they had, to get treatment and turn their lives around. http://www.alternet.org/rights/105418/ Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 McCain's Big Backfire: Majority of Americans Like the Idea of Spreading the Wealth By Alexander Zaitchik, AlterNet It must come as surprise to the Republicans that the public favors Obama's style of wealth spreading by a whopping margin. http://www.alternet.org/democracy/105652/ California's Prop. 5 Could Change the Course of America's Drug War By Silja J.A. Talvi, AlterNet Californians have chance to vote on Prop. 5 -- an intelligent, dynamic approach to criminal justice reform. http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/105677/ MICHAEL MOORE ON THE ELECTION, THE BAILOUT, HEALTHCARE, AND 10 PROPOSALS FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENT By Amy Goodman, Democracy Now! "At this point it's just kind of sad to see John McCain and the others going to the dark side ... a sad way to end his career." http://www.alternet.org/election08/105676/ IT IS NOW ABSOLUTELY CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT REPUBLICAN RULE IS DANGEROUS AND AUTHORITARIAN By John Dean, FindLaw.com Republicans rule, rather than govern, when they are in power by imposing their authoritarian conservative philosophy on everyone. http://www.alternet.org/democracy/105669/ MARRIAGE EQUALITY HANGS IN THE BALANCE: PROP 8 IN A DEAD HEAT By Karen Ocamb, AlterNet This weekend's call to action from religious leaders to prevent the "destruction of Western civilization" could help push equality foes to victory. http://www.alternet.org/sex/105620/ RACHEL MADDOW INTERVIEWS BARACK OBAMA By Rachel Maddow, MSNBC The Democratic candidate visited MSNBC's "The Rachel Maddow Show." Click through to view the second part of the interview. http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/105605/ HOW TO MAKE YOUR VOTE AS EASY AS POSSIBLE: AN ONLINE GUIDE By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet How to vote early, find your polling place, check your registration, know what ID to bring, report problems, call a lawyer and more. http://www.alternet.org/election08/105468/ DRAMATIC PROGRESSIVE REFORMS AND EVIL SCHEMES ON THE CALIFORNIA BALLOT AlterNet This election, California voters have a huge chance -- and a special responsibility -- to vote on dramatic progressive reforms. http://www.alternet.org/election08/105628/ WE CAN'T PARACHUTE PAID ELECTION WORKERS INTO COMMUNITIES AND EXPECT GOOD DEMOCRACY By Melanie L. Campbell, AlterNet We'll protect the vote and increase democratic participation better starting from the ground up. http://www.alternet.org/democracy/105663/ JOE BAGEANT KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT WHITE WORKING-CLASS VOTERS -- HE IS ONE By Nick Penniman, American News Project The author of <i>Deer Hunting with Jesus</i> gives a very different account than the pollsters and political operatives on rural white voters. http://www.alternet.org/story/105670/ RONALD REAGAN'S CHIEF OF STAFF ENDORSES OBAMA (YES, YOU READ THAT CORRECTLY) By Booman, Booman Tribune No, seriously. You did. http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/105657/ 3 more days! Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 man, talk about dirty. Here it is election morning and I'm watching Today on NBC and every commercial break the rep nat committee is throwing out an attack ad featuring Reverend Wright. Its sad they don't realize its too late to scare the majority into voting for their candidate and its shameful that this is how they choose to end their hard fought campaign. Happy voting you guys Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 Obama elected 44th president Illinois senator to become first African-American executive in U.S. history!!!! WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myk JL 1,731 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 Sweet! And I didn't have to vote... Although I'm still going to get blamed for not voting (for Kerry) last time... Dopey Republicans should have went with Ron Paul. Those who fight deplorables should see to it that they themselves do not become deplorables. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 Until the republican party ditches the racist, antisemitic, right wing evangelical view of how this country is and what America stands for (as was defended by a landslide tonight) they'll keep losing. Hey, works for me Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gundam-Ranger-X 1,988 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 Wow, did not see that comming. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Obama won I just didn't see him doing it. Maybe there's hope for the US after all. Life tastes like kittens. I like kittens! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kite 3,263 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 im shocked tbh, suprised there wasnt a repeat of the florida incident ;p now obama has the fun part of keeping all the promises he made to the public ad to the people who funded his campaign Bruce Campbell: '' This place has more security then the Batcave '' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 there is hope for America. Through all the campaigning I desperately wanted to believe it and last night my fellow Americans proved to me that it is time to put insignificant things like skin color aside. Yes, there are a lot of racist and antisemitic people in this country but the rest of us sent them and the world a very loud and clear message last night. We will no longer be controlled by the fearful and prejudice. Its a huge awesome step in the right direction for our country. We are a melting pot, we were long overdue for a national leader that reflects our ethnic diversity. This landslide victory also showed me as a person living here in the states that the people with love, acceptance and hope in their hearts outnumber those with hatred in their hearts. We've got the numbers on our side now and we will put this country on the right path -finally. Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khellendross 1,260 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 The republican party since bush took office has always governed with fear. fear of "them" "they" "The Terrorists". It has been this fear that has kept america in line behind them for so long. Even during the McCain campain they tried to bring out more of these fears. Last night america sent them a message saying "We are not afraid. We refuse to fear because we are told to do so. We will choose our own path and walk it." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kite 3,263 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 now he is elected, i just hope they stop refering to his ethnicity voting for him because he is black is just as bad as not voting for him becuase his is black, i think the rest of the world will just be happy that bush is out, hopefully he can do something with the iraq situation, and maybe in a few years, restore the worlds faith in the USA Bruce Campbell: '' This place has more security then the Batcave '' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted November 5, 2008 Barack Obama will responsibly end the war in Iraq: Immediately upon taking office, Obama will give his Secretary of Defense and military commanders a new mission in Iraq: successfully ending the war. The removal of our troops will be responsible and phased. Encourage political accommodation: Obama and Biden will press Iraq's leaders to take responsibility for their future and to substantially spend their oil revenues on their own reconstruction. Increase stability in Iraq and the region: Obama and Biden will launch an aggressive diplomatic effort to reach a comprehensive compact on the stability of Iraq and the region. They also will address Iraq's refugee crisis. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gokuDX7 2,871 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 The funny thing is neither where good choices and even if they where, at the end of their first term people are gonna to see that and be questioning their choice. The economy isn't going to go back to the way it used to be for another several years or more. Hell It hasn't even leveled out yet. The troops in Iraq are not going to get pulled out anytime soon and oil drilling is not going to die. I think the only change that Obama brought was the change of how we vote. No more basing on skin color. All hail piggy, king of bacon ^)^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myk JL 1,731 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 I thought it was because the Republicans couldn't really chant "4 more years (kinda)"... This was the Republicans election to lose when they refused to correct themselves. Those who fight deplorables should see to it that they themselves do not become deplorables. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 omfg MWZHTJsR4Bc Internal battles divided McCain, Palin camps Republican running mate appeared to have been catalyst for infighting. Full story | Video so glad Obama Biden won Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myk JL 1,731 Report post Posted November 6, 2008 I can't wait to see this be made fun of by The Daily Show & Colbert Report! Those who fight deplorables should see to it that they themselves do not become deplorables. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites