Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted April 17, 2009 CIA employees won't be tried for waterboarding WASHINGTON - Seeking to move beyond what he calls a "a dark and painful chapter in our history," President Barack Obama said Thursday that CIA officials who used harsh interrogation tactics during the Bush administration will not be prosecuted. The government released four memos in which Bush-era lawyers approved in often graphic detail tough interrogation methods used against 28 terror suspects. The rough tactics range from waterboarding — simulated drowning — to keeping suspects naked and withholding solid food. Even as they exposed new details of the interrogation program, Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, offered the first definitive assurance that those CIA officials are in the clear, as long as their actions were in line with the legal advice at the time. (in other words torture) Read Justice Department memo on waterboarding, interrogation methods (.pdf) [ame=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#30254996]Countdown with Keith OlbermannCountdown with Keith Olbermann[/ame] [ame=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#30255241]Rachel Maddow Show[/ame] Fuck you asshole Obama you fucking jerk turd right wing lap dog Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kite 3,263 Report post Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) I dont agree with torture under most circumstances, certainly not waterboarding. However; I dont blame Obama decision, it is like in BSG when Rosaline didnt prosecute the cylon colabarators from New Caprica. if they got the ok to torture under Bush's Administration, then the elected government made a choice right or wrong. Obama was elected to lead the USA to a better future, he cant do that of he spends all his time cleaning up the past. Obama should make sure it doesnt ever happen again.... Edited April 17, 2009 by Kite Bruce Campbell: '' This place has more security then the Batcave '' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted April 17, 2009 I disagree. first of all this isn't fiction. Americans were not being overlorded by the gitmo detainees. second as a nation we decided long ago the USA does not torture third, if they get away with what they have done it leaves the door open for war crimes to happen again and again and again If Obama is serious about making sure it doesn't happen again he must prosecute those that ordered the torture in the first place. Many organizations will continue to push for indictments despite Obama's ass covering stance; they have my constant support and I'm not the only one writing our reps or chucking cash at the ACLU. Even if the current bushy lovin presedent does not care about justice the American people do and we will not just get over it or let it drop. Its not retrebution to enforce criminal laws (as Obama swore to do when he took public office). Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ladywriter 7,783 Report post Posted April 18, 2009 *cough see cough* Dear ACLU Supporter, Disturbing secret memos released yesterday detail the sadistic interrogation methods the Bush administration authorized the CIA to use on detainees. These memos provide shocking confirmation of high-level involvement in the Bush torture program. It's appalling to see how far our nation strayed from our commitment to human rights. To restore our values we must demand accountability from those responsible. The last thing America can do now is adopt a "let bygones be bygones" approach to these despicable and indefensible activities. In America, no one is above the law -- and when crimes have been committed, our legal system demands accountability. It took five long years for the ACLU to force these memos out into the open. And, no matter how long it takes, we're going to keep pushing until those responsible for these heinous acts are held accountable. Enforcing the law is not a political decision. In America, there aren't seasons when we enforce the law and other seasons when we simply ignore it. Slamming people against walls. Placing them in stress positions for prolonged periods. Waterboarding them. These are the kinds of "enhanced interrogation techniques" that these outrageous memos seek to justify. In short, as one of the Bush torture memos openly acknowledges, they seek to permit activities that our own State Department routinely condemns as torture. We can't just say "Tsk. Tsk. That should never have happened" and walk away. We must demonstrate our commitment to the rule of law and demand accountability if our country is going to move forward. We need your continued support to make sure those who broke the law by authorizing these heinous crimes are brought to justice. As a Guardian of Liberty, your small, monthly gift can provide the support we need to be successful in this work. It will be a long and difficult fight -- but it is the only way to restore our values at home and our reputation abroad. Become a Guardian of Liberty by making a recurring monthly donation. http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=OIybMd2kR1ZMZ82QY14RgA.. Thank you for standing with us, Anthony D. Romero Executive Director American Civil Liberties Union P.S. It was up to you and the ACLU to force the release of these memos. And it's up to us to make sure those who authorized and condoned torture are held to account. Look at the flowers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites