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if it weren't for the 11th we'd all be dead via Mayan apocalypse by now !!!! Dr Who is the true savior of man!

I wasn't trying to defend them. They made the wrong choice, plain and simple. But what I'm saying is that it's also the parent's and community's fault as well. I hear teen and younger boys joking about raping someone and laugh because they haven't put that connection together yet, and the parents don't bother to correct them. If they're going online looking for porn (and lets face it, most of them are), porn with the women getting 'raped' end with the woman having a good time, so they have a very skewed view of sex and what is right and wrong in that regard. And the parents are 'too busy' or just plain uncomfortable talking about sex with their kids, so they're left on their own to figure out what they should do. We don't just need education for our kids; a lot of parents should be educated as well.