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If they sold the system without kinect at this point, they would probably infuriate countless developers that have added kinect features based off their developer kits. If MS wanted to really sell the kinect as a new standard they should have done what Sony did with the PS3 when they were establishing blu ray as a new standard. Sell the system at a loss for the first 6 months or so until the costs to produce the system drops.. then they'll make money. As it is with their $100 extra per unit cost, they'll be losing sales. If they lost money initially it could benefit them in the long run with new xbox live memberships, word of mouth from fans and extra features the PS4 does not have all for the same price. Right now, Sony is going to get the jump on MS just like MS did on Sony in the last gen consoles.

I signed up to win one on a facebook contest even though I already bought one. You better believe I'll be putting it on ebay if I win it.

The MS Fan Boys who demand Kinect be included at this point might as well be the same people who demand the Wii U Pad. They're so proud of their technology even if its deemed worthless to multi-platform games. They don't have to worry about people like me though. They can keep their mandatory Casual controls all to themselves as there is no way I'm buying an Xbox One at this rate.

Looks like they took Sabotage from COD and made it into 64 player frenzy over one bomb on a big map . If there are tickets, I'm sure there will be no ticket servers.... these matches could go on endlessly, until someone detonates it. Definitely a good way to rack up on XP and stat padding. I like the new spawn map, and I like how the person that killed you is highlighted so you can see where you were killed from instead of watching what that person is actually doing for 3-4 seconds.

Bungie has a goal to change mutliplayer matchmaking and character progression in this new trailer/developer diary on Destiny. This post has been promoted to an article